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Douglas Fir vs Southern Yellow Pine

Douglas Fir (Pseudotsuga menziesii) and Southern Yellow Pine (Pinus taeda) are two woods people often weigh against each other. Southern Yellow Pine is the harder of the two at 690 lbf on the Janka scale, versus 660 lbf for Douglas Fir, which affects how each handles wear, tools, and denting.

PropertyDouglas Fir
Pseudotsuga menziesii
Southern Yellow Pine
Pinus taeda
TypeSoftwoodSoftwood
Cost$ · Budget$ · Budget
Hardness660 lbf690 lbf
WorkabilityGoodGood
Seasonal movementSmallMedium
Outdoor-friendlyNoNo
OriginDomestic (North America)Domestic (Southeastern US)
Commonly builtWorkbenches, Timber-frame beams, Built-in shelving, Shop cabinets, Garden trellisesFraming lumber, Pressure-treated lumber, Flooring, Workbenches
OverviewThe structural softwood, stiff, strong, and dimensionally stable. Common in framing, increasingly popular for sturdy shop furniture.The strongest common construction softwood, dense, resinous, and stiff. Great structural strength for the price, though the hard latewood bands can fight your tools.

Finishing

Douglas Fir

Strong grain contrast between soft early wood and hard late wood makes it blotch and take stain unevenly; condition first or use a gel stain, or embrace the bold grain under a clear finish. Takes clear film finishes and paint well. A traditional choice for a clear-finished, character-forward look.

Southern Yellow Pine

Very strong early/late wood contrast makes even staining difficult, use a conditioner or gel stain, or clear-finish to show the bold grain. Resinous, so seal knots and resin streaks with shellac before finishing to prevent bleed-through. Takes paint and clear finishes well otherwise.

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